if romney wins or the vice presidential candidate he will have the mandate for some version of the budget probably tempered a little bit to get some democratic votes but if he becomes president he will have a mandate for something close to that and either way we will get a big deal plus the pressure of the debt limit and other things in the markets out there. i think 2013 becomes a big entitlement reform tax reform budget reform moment. it does mean and this gets to john's point there will be an amazing pettit november 7th and suddenly the campaign will be over and president obama has to say a lot of people voted for him guess what we are in the entitlement reform and all that stuff i said about how mitt romney is going to destroy america suddenly we are going to be doing something wildly different from some of the reforms the republicans talked about and of course romney is going to have the same problem in the campaign to his credit the romney transition team led by the predecessor is actually working pretty seriously on what they would have to do. but the disconnect i don't know if it